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Hi Jon. This certainly does look like a powerful addition to Evernote's tool kit.
What's also interesting here are the legal and privacy implications of this. Where and how the recording is being transcribed is part of it, but the other issue is around consent to being recorded more generally.
Different jurisdictions obviously have different disclosure requirements, but it in't difficult to imagine a scenario where the content of a recording becomes part of a legal proceeding. Id also imagine that in that in that instance, parties could demand access to the computer and the original recording to establish its authenticity.
I get that this scenario could be an outlier, but Evernote is marketing this as "meeting notes" so the implication is that people are using this in business or professional settings. The ethics and legality of this feel huge, or perhaps we just chalk it up to another area where AI is changing the world in ways we haven't quite yet figured out.
Yeah. I’ll ask the question as the Evernote is basically recording whatever is on your device, it’s not the instigator of the meeting itself, that could be any app. I recorded a radio interview the other day and transcribed it.
Would be interesting hear if it’s even possible for Evernote to say something is being recorded if using Teams or Meet as EN doesn’t have access. I’ll ask.
Thanks Jon. I should say, too, that my comment was probably more about the use of AI more generally than anything that Evernote is doing (or not doing). People have used recording devices in meetings for years, it's more about how those transcripts are analysed and used that I think is interesting. The process of summarising a long conversation involves making all sorts of choices and judgements. AI does that kind of thing very quickly and confidently, but i'm not sure it always does it very well.
It looks like this was a beta feature that, for me at least, got pulled away when Evernote auto-updated to 10.166.2 (mac). In particular, can no longer do "remote" audio recording -- it only captures my side of the conversation. The option is gone from all the menus. Is anyone else seeing the removal of this feature?
Hi Jon! Do you know if you can initiate the audio recording from the Action Button on the iPhone? Ideally, I would love to be out and about, have an idea, click the button on my iPhone and it immediately starts recording my audio in a new note, then the AI works its magic to summarize, etc
Hey Sasha. Yes, I think you can. In settings search for Action button and swipe to controls, the choose a control and then scroll down to Evernote and select New Recording.
Just tested and it works but you do need to unlock the phone first.
Fear auricle on the Meeting trab=nscript feature. I was able to test this out on Satirday in a session with 3 others oin a Google Meet call. It did a good job. Particularly like the way that just changing "Speaker 1" label yo the actual name was a simple task.
I agree with your assessment of the meeting reports. I’ve been copying the transcripts to another app for more verbose summaries.
Tha recordings themselves have been flawless, even as I change inputs and outputs during a meeting - A marked improvement from the previous audio recording function.
Hi Jon. This certainly does look like a powerful addition to Evernote's tool kit.
What's also interesting here are the legal and privacy implications of this. Where and how the recording is being transcribed is part of it, but the other issue is around consent to being recorded more generally.
Different jurisdictions obviously have different disclosure requirements, but it in't difficult to imagine a scenario where the content of a recording becomes part of a legal proceeding. Id also imagine that in that in that instance, parties could demand access to the computer and the original recording to establish its authenticity.
I get that this scenario could be an outlier, but Evernote is marketing this as "meeting notes" so the implication is that people are using this in business or professional settings. The ethics and legality of this feel huge, or perhaps we just chalk it up to another area where AI is changing the world in ways we haven't quite yet figured out.
Yeah. I’ll ask the question as the Evernote is basically recording whatever is on your device, it’s not the instigator of the meeting itself, that could be any app. I recorded a radio interview the other day and transcribed it.
Would be interesting hear if it’s even possible for Evernote to say something is being recorded if using Teams or Meet as EN doesn’t have access. I’ll ask.
Thanks Jon. I should say, too, that my comment was probably more about the use of AI more generally than anything that Evernote is doing (or not doing). People have used recording devices in meetings for years, it's more about how those transcripts are analysed and used that I think is interesting. The process of summarising a long conversation involves making all sorts of choices and judgements. AI does that kind of thing very quickly and confidently, but i'm not sure it always does it very well.
Yes. A point well made. Meetings can be about anything and quite personal.
I remember similar conversations when "the cloud" started back around 2008/9/10ish.
It looks like this was a beta feature that, for me at least, got pulled away when Evernote auto-updated to 10.166.2 (mac). In particular, can no longer do "remote" audio recording -- it only captures my side of the conversation. The option is gone from all the menus. Is anyone else seeing the removal of this feature?
Interesting. I still see it myself as an option on windows and mac with that version. Try a log out and back in again to see if it kicks it off again.
Just to close the loop -- this worked. Magic! Thanks for the advice
Hi Jon! Do you know if you can initiate the audio recording from the Action Button on the iPhone? Ideally, I would love to be out and about, have an idea, click the button on my iPhone and it immediately starts recording my audio in a new note, then the AI works its magic to summarize, etc
Hey Sasha. Yes, I think you can. In settings search for Action button and swipe to controls, the choose a control and then scroll down to Evernote and select New Recording.
Just tested and it works but you do need to unlock the phone first.
Fear auricle on the Meeting trab=nscript feature. I was able to test this out on Satirday in a session with 3 others oin a Google Meet call. It did a good job. Particularly like the way that just changing "Speaker 1" label yo the actual name was a simple task.
Excellent. Glad it works well. It got 5 speakers OK last week which I was quite impressed with.
Thank you for the review, Jon. Looking forward to trying it out with my first meeting next week. It’ll be interesting with about 4 speakers.
It works ok. It managed to detect 5 speakers last week.
Excellent summary, Jon.
I agree with your assessment of the meeting reports. I’ve been copying the transcripts to another app for more verbose summaries.
Tha recordings themselves have been flawless, even as I change inputs and outputs during a meeting - A marked improvement from the previous audio recording function.
Thanks. There may be something coming soon that helps with creating a better summary, action points and a lot more :)